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herisau  
#1 Posted : Saturday, January 13, 2007 3:55:28 PM(UTC)
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Good Evening,
TK5 wants me to update the data for WAG and PAYX. Try as I may, the data feed won't update the two stocks. The program acts aas if it  updated but the red ink  in the reminder does not budge. Is there a problem in the data feed? or is it TK5? Does it have to do with the switch from OPS to Stock Central? It does update prices without a problem.
Leonie Sauer herisau@comcast.net

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gerlach  
#2 Posted : Monday, January 15, 2007 5:18:23 AM(UTC)
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Toolkit 5 is pre-programmed to turn on the reminders about updating data when it's 90 days past year-end or 45 days past quarter-end, though you can adjust those dates in the Preferences > Thresholds dialog box to meet your own preferences.

But I think that the problem is the datafiles. It appears that the data hasn't been updated, so we'll take a look at that right away.

Doug
herisau  
#3 Posted : Tuesday, January 16, 2007 1:37:44 PM(UTC)
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Thanks Doug.
TK just updated PAYX but still refuses to do same for WAG.
Leonie Sauer herisau@comcast.net
jncraig  
#4 Posted : Tuesday, January 16, 2007 2:33:48 PM(UTC)
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The most recent quarter in the PAYX file is 11/06, but the most recent quarter in the WAG file is 8/06. So, while the data is actually being "updated," the data for WAG will be "out of date" as far as Toolkit is concerned.

Hopefully, the next update of our data will include a more recent quarter for WAG. At the moment, our data is about 2 weeks out of date due to a problem server computer that had to be rebuilt. I hope that our data will be brought up to date within a day or two.
Joe
jncraig  
#5 Posted : Monday, January 22, 2007 2:18:29 PM(UTC)
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If you do an update now, you should see that WAG is "up to date" ..
Joe
jeff1851  
#6 Posted : Monday, February 12, 2007 12:00:20 PM(UTC)
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Joe,

Last night at our club meeting two members had problems updating a number of companies.  ORLY was one that I recall.  We got new prices but the data was at least two quarters old.  We switched to the S&P feed from BI and they all updated. 

 

Regards,

Jeff Williams

jncraig  
#7 Posted : Tuesday, February 13, 2007 7:02:30 AM(UTC)
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Jeff,

I'd really like to know the companies that were giving you trouble. I just checked the ORLY file -- I can download it, and I can update using it.

The last quarter in the ORLY file is the September quarter. It's probably still a little early so see the December quarter. A quick check shows that the last 10-Q filed was the September quarter and the filing was on Nov. 8.

I presume that the SDS file includes preliminary data. That is subject to change when the official filing is made.
Joe
jeff1851  
#8 Posted : Tuesday, February 13, 2007 8:03:53 AM(UTC)
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I unfortunately do not have a list.  I forwarded the information regarding the preliminary versus waiting until 10-K/Q to the club members and asked that they be on the lookout for any companies presenting a problem.  If I see anything I will let you know.

 

Jeff

sandycoughlin  
#9 Posted : Thursday, March 8, 2007 9:22:12 AM(UTC)
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We 'know' Value Line and S&P. Does Stock Central use either of these sources or a third? We do try to compare apples to apples in our SSGs and it helps to know what bias is consistent with Stock Central's infor.
jncraig  
#10 Posted : Thursday, March 8, 2007 11:37:56 AM(UTC)
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StockCentral's data sources are Hemscott for historical data and CSI for historical prices. You'll see links to both companies at the bottom of every page on StockCentral. You'll also find some information about the data sources if you'll click on the "faq" tab and read the questions and answers that refer to data.

We believe that the Hemscott and CSI data sources are at least as good as Value Line and S&P. You'll also find other reputable publications and web site that use the same sources. These include Microsoft MoneyCentral, Yahoo Finance, and Forbes.

As always, if you have questions about the data, please ask. We're here to answer your questions!
Joe
rjacobs  
#11 Posted : Thursday, March 8, 2007 3:08:08 PM(UTC)
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What are the advantages of using the Stock Central data feed vs. the BI data feed in terms of accuracy, reliability, etc.
Thanks.
Richard Jacobs
sc_host  
#12 Posted : Thursday, March 8, 2007 6:59:58 PM(UTC)
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Where is the red ink that won't go away?
rjacobs  
#13 Posted : Tuesday, March 13, 2007 1:31:32 PM(UTC)
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Excuse me. Is that a reply to my question about the SC vs BU data feed? If so, sorry, I did not understand it.
jncraig  
#14 Posted : Tuesday, March 13, 2007 2:35:55 PM(UTC)
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If you are referring the "red ink", no. That was in reference to a question from Leonie Sauer.


My reply to your question is the same as the message in this thread and dated 03/08/2007 4:37 PM.
Joe
jncraig  
#15 Posted : Wednesday, March 14, 2007 6:14:20 AM(UTC)
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Sandra,

Perhaps I didn't answer your question as well as I should have.

There are answers to specific questions about our data inf the "faq" tab.  Click on the "data" link.  One of the questions has to do with normalization of the data -- whether the Hemscott data takes care of one-time or extraordinarly events properly:

Is the StockCentral data feed normalized?
Yes. The analysts at our data provider, Hemscott Data, adjust net income as reported by the company on their Form 10-K or Form 10-Q to calculate fully-diluted, normalized, Earnings Per Share. This figure includes income from continuing operations, less any extraordinary gains/losses or other non-continuing special income or charges. The figure is calculated using diluted common shares outstanding (adjusted for the assumed conversion of all potentially dilutive securities, which may include convertible debentures, warrants, options, convertible preferred stock, etc.)



If you have other questions regarding the data, PLEASE ask them!
Joe
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